Give Me The Dirt
SM: What do you think most negatively affects the quality of our soils, Nels?
NF: For potting soil the biggest thing is inconsistency. A lot of things are deficient in calcium. Out of the bag. Each bag is deficient in some way
The thing with soil chem is that it’s an all or nothing thing, either you’re on or you’re not.
Calcium, from a chem standpoint, is the authority of the table. As far as keeping the other minerals in the soil in balance and keeping things at the correct ph. If Calcium is off it can open up a can of worms that can be hard to diagnose. So it's surprising how poor competitor soil is and that calcium is the culprit. In my opinion they may not have tested and this is what they have been selling for a longtime now. It can work but it’s far from ideal.
All of our nutrients are properly dialed in from copper to molybdenum. We are consistent far and beyond our closest competitors, and if you’re spending millions of dollars and have a millionaire backing behind the show it’s imperative to have that consistency.
The biology can be there but the chemistry must be aligned. The only way to know is to test. The average grower isn’t going to go buy a 25 dollar bag of soil and a 25 dollar soil isn’t always a great product for your choice of crop. They will trust the product. So it’s a perpetuated lie in the industry since forever that, each bag is the same as the next every time.
Each bag will have a fundamentally different composition as the scale of an operation grows. There’s just no way for that to work.
SM: An incredible insight! I know that in pallets and bails of soils that we’ve bought, you’ll find bags that are deficient or hot in one element or another. I’ve had a season where an entire two truck loads of soil were too hot even well into the season. That consistency is key, and the farmer also needs to be aware of the source and of what’s in their own land.
The Down and Dirty
All of these innovations and science driven soil creations have made me think of the consequences of progress. As we start to move forward into an unclear climate future, do you all endeavor to use sustainable practices while producing your soil?
NF: One of the biggest things that we do right now is very special to us. Paonia soil started the one yard tote. That was probably 2013 or 2014, Paonia started using the one yard tote to ship all of the soil, and so with that, a lot of our resellers that participate in the tote recycling program, have had totes used for years. The tote program allow a person or company to pay a deposit for a tote, and as long as the tote is clean and in good condition we give you 10 bucks back every time that they return to our site and re-fill them with us. That ‘s not only an ecological benefit by keeping bags that other companies fill landfills with, we now also aren’t paying for the bags as a company.
As far as sustainability goes, one of the biggest cases against bagged soils in general is sphagnum peat. We use a company that does sustainably harvest it. The stagnant peat bogs were being over harvested for a while to make these soils. Coco peat is a less ecologically harmful option. When I order The Bomb, I use the coco because it allows for more drainage, and it’s a more sustainable choice.
SM: I hadn’t been aware about the problems with peat. Now I have some perspective as I peruse the garden shop stacks. We can’t anger the earth spirits by working against nature. It would be great to know where the roller coaster will be taking you Nels Fymbo. Let us know what the future holds for your company Pro Grow and for yourself.
NF: With Pro Grow, I want to be a part of getting the good soil out there. I’ve tried almost everything. The reason Pro Grow came around is that I started using Paonia products. I found them because everything on the market, in my opinion, sucks. Through a friend a while back I got their number, and Bart, the owner over there, talked me into getting The Bomb. I said, “Yea I’ll try it”, and figured, Bart sounds like a smart guy, like he knows what he’s doing. I bought some and realized, he KNOWS what he’s doing. I reached out to Bart and it turned out he needed help in the Fort Collins area and things just started to floor it. So I just believe in the product so much that it’s worth my time to get it out to the world. Making money is great and business can’t survive without being profitable, but I really do run the show at Pro Grow because I really believe in the soil. Making money is a secondary thing for me.
SM: What’s been your favorite thing to grow so far in Paonia’s The Bomb?
NF: That’s the fun of growing cannabis is that there’s always something new to grow. I had an awesome cut called Spritzer, it won awards here in colorado and usually gets good reviews. But to pick one strain…that’s one of the great things about cannabis, it’s like people, there’s all kinds of shapes and personalities and characteristics. It’s fun to just grow and find new things to play with. I like big plants, 10ft tall, 10ft wide plants. That was the great thing about The Bomb. I dug holes, and threw in about 400 gallons. I threw in a 15 gallon start and just let it grow and it just shot up. Nice and simple. A little water and sunshine.
Farewell, Until Next Time
What a perfect way to end our conversation. An almost perfect allusion to our first adventures together. Toiling in the soil can be a messy affair, but luckily the Cannavatar has come to have knowledgeable friends that share a hunger to learn. We journeyed from the macro to the micro, breaking down the soil like water, sun, wind and time. I thank Nels Fymbo for answering our questions and helping us all to think more critically about the world beneath us. I’m thankful for our readers, for this plant, and for another day to walk amongst these sticky flowers. Until the next time we take this ride, I’ll keep the oowop lit. Peace and Love.